061002-perfSONAR-JRA1-WS

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Detailed agenda

This is a first cut at revising the agenda. I still have to go back and reorder a few things to meet requirements of when individual people are available. (I'll do that tonight or Friday.) The goal here was to identify moderators and reorder the topics suggested into an order that allows us to build on past decisions and not discuss topics that are depenedent on topics to be discussed.

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Monday Morning

1) Overview of Network Plans (3 hours, moderated by Joe)

The development of new networks and support of existing networks is sure to impact the development plans of individual participants in the perfSONAR project.

a) Overview of the status of each network

  • ESnet (Joe) (10 minutes)
  • GEANT2 (Nicolas) (10 minutes)
  • Internet2 (Eric) (10 minutes)
  • RNP (Leobino) (10 minutes)

b) Overview of perfSONAR requirements

  • ESnet (Joe) (10 minutes)
  • LHC (Joe) (10 minutes)
  • GEANT2 (Nicolas) (10 minutes)
  • Internet2 (Eric) (10 minutes)
  • RNP (Leobino) (10 minutes)
  • SLAC (Yee) (10 minutes)

Discussion: Where is there overlap, where are there parallel efforts targeted at different hardware, and who is counting on who

BREAK

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Monday Afternoon

2) Discussion of available perfSONAR development resources (who? skill set? interests?) in the next year (1 hour, moderated by Joe)

  • ESnet/LHC (Joe) (10 minutes)
  • GEANT2 JRA1 (Nicolas) (10 minutes)
  • Internet2 (Eric) (10 minutes)
  • RNP (Leobino) (10 minutes)

Discussion: Who needs to work together? Who can proceed independently? Who is counting on someone else but would like to be able to specify requirements?

3) Project Structure (2 hours, moderated by Eric)

In the past few months, we have proposed and implemented a release engineering team, proposed (but not really implemented) a steering committee, and had periodic discussions about various topics. I think we should revisit these structures and perhaps rework those that are not functioning.

a) Bash the agenda for this subtopic.

b) Discussion: Core vs. Affiliate.

What do we mean by "Core"? What do we mean by "Affiliate"? Should we loosen the tie between services? For example, L2 schema status, Internet2-planned services.

c) Branding / Naming of Services

We need a simple naming scheme for services that allows users to understand how to pick which services they want and which version of each they want. For example, what if the name for the Brazilian Command-Line Measurement Point was perfSONAR-MP-command_line?

What is the process for allowing a service to call itself "perfSONAR" or "perfSONAR-compliant"?

d) Licensing

How does this impact licensing?

BREAK


Beer / Sleep Break

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Tuesday Morning

4) Conclude new perfSONAR Service discussion (1 hour, moderated by Eric)

a) Review Eric's email from Monday night

b) Define perfSONAR client

c) Assign action items

5) Discussion: Ease of Installation (2 hours, moderated by Joe)

Experience has shown that we're having a significant problem with users being able to install and run perfSONAR.

a) User Feedback

  1. SLAC experience (10 minutes, Yee)
  2. ESnet experience (10 minutes, Joe)
  3. Others?

b) Group discussion on the best way forward. Note, this discussion will be significantly impacted by what we decided in #3B.

  1. Multiple Services on a simple Tomcat Instance (30 minutes, Loukik)
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Tuesday Afternoon

6) Testing (2 hours, moderated by Nicolas)

a) What is the current status of testing?

  1. Performance tests (update from MG + Input from NJ based on their experience) - (1h)
  2. JUNit Review (??) (30 minutes)
  3. Functional Test Review (MM) (30 minutes)

b) DISCUSSION: What is the plan going forward for testing? Extend performance tests to other services?

BREAK

7) AA (1 hour, Maurizio, will start at 16 cest)

MORE BEER, SLEEP BREAK

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Wednesday Morning

8) Release Engineering (2 hours, moderated by Nicolas)

a) What is the current status of release engineering? (Luis)

  1. First release and lessons learned (15min)
  2. Summary of questions encountered (15min)
  3. Bug status report (15 min)
  4. How to improve the installation scripts (30 -45 min)
  5. What in the next release and which candidates? (1h)
  6. Timeline for next release (1h)

b) What is the plan going forward for release engineering?

9) NMWG Schema (1 hour, moderated by Szymon)

a) NMWG Schema status update (30 minutes, Martin)

b) Extensions to NMWG to support service trial and LHC monitoring (30 minutes, Otto/Martin/Joe/Loukik)

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Wednesday Afternoon

10) Individual Service Overviews (3 hours, moderated by Szymon)

a) Topology Service Overview (1 hour, moderated by Szymon)

What is the current status of the Topology Service

  1. NMWG Topology Status (30 minutes, Martin)
  2. Issues to be resolved with NDL (10 minutes, Martin)
  3. Current implementation status (30 minutes, Ulisses)
  4. CNIS (30 minutes, Andreas)

BREAK

b) Multi-LS (1 hour, Jason [remote] / Martin)

c) RNP LS (10 minutes, Leobino)

11) perfSONAR Web Page (1-5 minutes, Joe leads)

Susan will make sure publications and presentations and clients are easily found from web page. Objections?

Filling in the blank areas ... ACTION ITEMS!!!!

12) perfSONAR Training (2 hours, moderated by Joe)

Review Past Experiences

  1. Internet2 Network Performance Workshops (10 min, Eric)
  2. "Meet the NRENs" (10 min, Jerome)
  3. SEEREN2 (10 minutes, Loukik/Roman [remote])
  4. L2 status workshop - Munich (10 min, Nicolas)
  5. L2 status workshop - Toronto (10 min, Loukik/Eric)

Discussion: Decide on the goals for workshops going forward

  1. Who is the audience? (Users? Installers? NOC Engineers?)
  2. How is the training done? (Cookbooks? Web pages? Tutorials?)
  3. Who is writing the training material?


13) Meeting Review / Summary of Action Items / Next Steps (1 hour, moderated by Nicolas)

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Minutes

  • Attendees
  1. Joe Metzger (ESnet)
  2. Eric Boyd (Internet2)
  3. Jeff Boote (Internet2)
  4. Martin Swany (UoD)
  5. Leobino Sampaio (RNP/Brazil)
  6. Uros Juvan (ARNES)
  7. Ivana Golub (CARNet)
  8. Danijel Matek (CARNet)
  9. Silvije Milisic (CARNet)
  10. Nicolas Simar (DANTE)
  11. Yee-Ting Li (SLAC)
  12. Michalis Michael (Cynet)
  13. Andreas Hanemann (DFN)
  14. Nina Jeliazkova (IPP-BAS/ISTF)
  15. Verena Venus (DFN)
  16. Szymon Trocha (PSNC)
  17. Maciej Głowiak (PSNC)
  18. Sven Ubik (Cesnet) - day 3
  19. Ulisses Alonso (RedIRIS) - day 3
  20. Luis Marta (FCCN) - day 3
  • Remote attendees
  1. Loukik Kudarimoti (DANTE)
  2. Roman Lapacz (PSNC)
  3. Maurizio Molina (DANTE)
  4. Diego Lopez
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